r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Apr 24 '26

Meme needing explanation Lois?

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u/Aurrr-Naurrrr Apr 24 '26

id love to see the "majority of fathers are shit during birth" study. Whats their methodology!?

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

They didn’t say “majority,” they said “common.” Words matter.

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u/Aurrr-Naurrrr Apr 24 '26

Whatever their findings, Id genuinely love to see their methodology lol

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

Has a number right there… you can look up the reference yourself if you want.

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u/Scudmuffin1 Apr 24 '26

What do you think youre proving by posting this? 86% attending the birth of their infant seems very very high, you'd probably see less consistent attendance for almost any event where they're not legally required to be there, and maybe even some where they are lol.

Then the second part, them feeling unwelcome or "in the way" is pretty understandable. Husbands can only do so much, it's the wife giving birth that is the main event, and shes the only one that can push that baby out. If the husband has done everything he can, assuming he's not medically trained to actually deliver the baby, then how could he not feel "in the way" when his wife is going through that? That of course doesn't justify leaving, but I can understand not wanting to be in the way of the trained professionals who are trying to get your beloved partner through such a traumatic event.

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

I’m proving that this has been studied and not just gut feeling of nurses. That said, would consider 14% of the population “common.” That’s a lot of people!

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u/Scudmuffin1 Apr 24 '26

About the same percent of people are left handed, would you consider that common?

Also I don't see it stated anywhere why the 14% of husbands weren't present, there are countless reasons, valid or otherwise, why someone wouldnt be able to attend. Not to excuse all of them, but if lets say the husband was in a car accident and was severely injured or even killed, that would count as not being present for the birth. You seem to be assuming all of that 14% were just not interested or didn't want to be there.

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

Yes I would consider left-handedness “common,” but if you don’t that’s fine, it’s a relatively vague term.

I really don’t have a strong opinion on the details. I just found the knock on nurses only speaking from anecdote unfair and inaccurate.

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u/upholsteryduder Apr 24 '26

it's literally anecdotal unless they actually record and analyze the data statistically

Anecdotal refers to information based on personal accounts, individual experiences, or informal observations rather than rigorous, scientific, or systematic evidence. It often consists of stories or hearsay used to support an argument, but it is considered unreliable for proving facts due to a lack of controlled research.

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u/upholsteryduder Apr 24 '26

That is 14% of all hospital births, probably pretty close to the % where the couple were never or are no longer together. 86% means that the ratio of men attending the birth of their children vs those who don't is 6:1 so no it's not "common", it's "common" that they DO show up, statistically, its RARE that they don't.

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u/Aurrr-Naurrrr Apr 24 '26

I mean all three of these seem like they're asking men about their feeling, emotions, thoughts, and expectations during birth. The image you posted says we feel unwelcome. Not that they are neglecting partners

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe Apr 24 '26

None of those support what your asserting. The second link is literally “page not found”.

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe Apr 24 '26

Yeah, that doesn’t support what you were initially arguing……

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

My “argument” was only that this is something that has been studied and not purely the anecdotal observation of RNs. That is clearly true. I don’t have any strong position on the specifics.

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u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe Apr 24 '26

I think you have reading comprehension problems if you think that study is relevant to the initial discussion

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u/Young_Hickory Apr 24 '26

At least I know the difference between “majority” and “common” and didn’t claim that no one has studied paternal attendance at births.

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u/finite_turtles Apr 24 '26

One of these is a 404 not found.

The other two are completely irrelevant, BUT if there is any takeaway message it would be the opposite of the point you are trying to make.

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u/upholsteryduder Apr 24 '26

Conclusion This study provides qualitative evidence that birth marked the beginning of fatherhood for these men. A father’s presence is now an indelible part of childbirth, and midwives can use their presence to help them to empower their partners to give birth in the best way they can.