“I, a corrections officer for a region in which there is a statistically anomalously high black population, express surprise when it turns out that the black inmate turned out to be innocent all along, because usually I don’t happen to see that happen, given the fact that all my prisoners are post-conviction, and am phrasing this as ‘when your black inmate ends up released because it turns out the prosecution messed up and they were innocent all along’ with an image of my face very surprised but don’t worry it’s not racist because I legitimately see a lot of bad black people”
Edit: also, pointedly, other commenters are saying that in the original video it was actually s response to the man getting slapped for saying this, and not about the man saying this, so the actual original person wasn’t being sexist but the person taking the screenshot was just some rando
Racial differences can be explained by socio-economic differences so it’s deceitful to use race as a factor when citing differences. Gender differences cannot be explained by other factors (yet at least).
I attributed the large percentage of black people in the hypothetical person’s prison to the unusual number of black people in the area so as to avoid giving credence to racist ideas while still pointing out how just seeing something a lot doesn’t validate racist conclusions. You seem to have accepted the sexist version of this as true but not the racist version and thus see a break in the parallel, but the point I was making was to specifically highlight how people are seeing the sexist version as not sexist when it really should be seen as sexist in the same way that the racist version is racist
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I've read study results showing women on average earning less than men when comparing identical roles and experience/skills.
Yes since it can be explained by socio-economic differences, it’s sexist to say women are less deserving of a salary than men for example.
Straight cis men out-scale all other categories in terms of violence and neglect. As a result it’s easy to conclude that it’s non-socio-economic factors since gay men are the category they’re being compared to and therefore the “fault” of straight men. But in reality, this just hasn’t been studied enough.
Wait... You don't think gender norms are influenced by social or cultural norms? You think men are biologically incapable of being attentive in a delivery room? Really?
I think most differences are explainable by social, cultural and economic differences. But that there's not enough research to explain why so many straight men show this pattern (as compared to gay men or non-pregnant lesbian partners).
If it is a biological reason, I don't want to accidentally discount it. Drawing on mammalian populations, there are a lot of species where mothers care more for their offspring than fathers. If it is a biological reason, then isn't it sexist to have equal expectations on both genders?
Personally I would believe it's a socio-economic reason unless it's proven otherwise. I just made my comment because we don't have the research to explain the differences yet unlike race based differences. I guess I could have worded that more clearly considering the downvotes.
I'd assume so, but we don't know that for sure. Imagine blaming women for not being able to carry heavy loads and saying it's a socio-economic factor? If there is a biological reason, then all the comments here jeering men would be awful and I don't want to be a part of it.
There is common sense and loads of research indicating behavioral differences between genders have a social basis.
You can assume women are physically weaker because of a physical difference and men behave differently in the delivery room because of a social difference.
Either way it's biased and rude to act shocked when a woman lifts a heavy box or when a man supports his partner.
We’re not in disagreement. Nor am I acting shocked. It seems you dislike the fact that I’m leaving space for alternate explanations when this very specific behavior has not been researched yet.
I'd be surprised if this hasn't been researched but I'll concede that I haven't read any. I'm not bothered by room for other explanation, but I don't think there should be any doubt that men are physically capable of supporting their partners, as this is evident. I wasn't saying you were shocked; I was referring the the OP. Have a good day, mate.
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u/Mountain-Resource656 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
“I, a corrections officer for a region in which there is a statistically anomalously high black population, express surprise when it turns out that the black inmate turned out to be innocent all along, because usually I don’t happen to see that happen, given the fact that all my prisoners are post-conviction, and am phrasing this as ‘when your black inmate ends up released because it turns out the prosecution messed up and they were innocent all along’ with an image of my face very surprised but don’t worry it’s not racist because I legitimately see a lot of bad black people”
Edit: also, pointedly, other commenters are saying that in the original video it was actually s response to the man getting slapped for saying this, and not about the man saying this, so the actual original person wasn’t being sexist but the person taking the screenshot was just some rando